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meatman 11-19-2008 08:54 AM

scum like this give us a banned name
 
Dad accused of killing daughter while cleaning gun

Wed Nov 19, 12:41 am ET

MARYSVILLE, Wash. � A father arrested after his 6-year-old daughter was fatally shot in their Washington state home allegedly told authorities he had been drinking double shots of vodka while cleaning his guns.

Court papers say Richard Peters told detectives he had asked his daughter, Stormy, to bring him the .45-caliber handgun Sunday. He said he must have pulled the trigger, and the girl fell to the floor. She was pronounced dead Monday.

Bail for Peters, 42, was set Monday at $250,000. He has been arrested for investigation of first-degree manslaughter.

His attorney, Annika Carlsten, requested that Peters be released from jail, The Herald newspaper of Everett reported. She argued that Peters isn't a flight risk, or a danger to himself or the community.

"It's obviously a tragedy for all involved and my primary concern is for my client and his family," Carlsten told The Associated Press on Tuesday night, declining to discuss any specifics.

The Snohomish County sheriff's office said two other children were removed from the home by Child Protective Services.

Twisted Avatar 11-19-2008 09:07 AM

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F*^&%#*%&^%CKING IDIOT!!!!!!!

I HOPE HE NEVER GETS HIS KIDS BACK.

T

Goldhedge 11-19-2008 09:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1423799)
F*^&%#*%&^%CKING IDIOT!!!!!!!

I HOPE HE NEVER GETS HIS KIDS BACK.

T

exactly, for drinking double shots while children are present.

Big_Rob 11-19-2008 09:40 AM

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Who the fukk does double shots of vodka while cleaning their gun!?! Poor little girl! Daddy was a moron!

mkinla 11-19-2008 09:53 AM

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Yeah, I usually clean my rifles when I'm three sheets into the wind. The hard part is cleaning the barrel with a round in the chamber... RIP to the daughter.

flash91 11-19-2008 10:50 AM

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I doubt he meant to shoot his daughter. Its a tragedy - alcohol impairs your judgement, guns are used to kill.

If you had to choose - a) prohibition, b) guns oulawed, c) X kids a year dead - what would you choose?

SLV>GLD 11-19-2008 10:52 AM

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I vote C.
No one learns from A and B.
We all learn from C.

eyeofliberty 11-19-2008 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flash91 (Post 1424000)
I doubt he meant to shoot his daughter. Its a tragedy - alcohol impairs your judgement, guns are used to kill.

If you had to choose - a) prohibition, b) guns oulawed, c) X kids a year dead - what would you choose?

I choose: d) ban stupid people

Twisted Avatar 11-19-2008 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1424005)
I vote C.
No one learns from A and B.
We all learn from C.

I agree.......

You cant legislate away stupidity.

MrTiKi 11-19-2008 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeofliberty (Post 1424008)
I choose: d) ban stupid people

I agree . I believe everyone has the right to own any firearm they want ,as long as they are not total morons. Maybe instead of more gun laws our government should just institute some kind of IQ test.

Zusn 11-19-2008 11:21 AM

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This just shows that we need more laws to keep guns out of the wrong hands. :sarc:

I hate it when the media ramps up on the evil gun killing people. J6P is going to blame the gun and not the dumbass getting drunk while handling a gun. What he did isn't much different than drinking and driving.

On a side note, I could NEVER understand how any gun anywhere in the world can go off while "being cleaned." That has to be the default statement for murder. Sir, did you kill your wife? No, I was cleaning my gun and it shot her. I've cleaned guns countless times and

1. There was never a bullet within a 10 foot radius
2. The gun was usually field stripped so there would be no way for a bullet to get fired

I have never understood this.

hoarder 11-19-2008 12:02 PM

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I wouldn't worry about idiots like that giving gun owners a bad name. There are millions of gun owners. Of course there are going to be extreme cases of irresponsibility.

What we should worry about is media scrutiny. They have the power and the agenda to take the worst examples of any of our liberties they oppose and make them look almost typical.

They routinely throw reason to the wind and give the stupidest ideas the greatest consideration.They can and do make the exception to the rule look like the rule and make the rule look like the exception.

Mass media has the power of suggestion, the power of scrutiny, the power of censorship, the power of repetition and the power of smear. No amount of gun safety education or "IQ tests" is going to slow their agenda.

Mass media will NEVER tell the public exactly WHO is behind gun control or why.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1201142713

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/5307

Brent 11-19-2008 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTiKi (Post 1424058)
I agree . I believe everyone has the right to own any firearm they want ,as long as they are not total morons. Maybe instead of more gun laws our government should just institute some kind of IQ test.

An IQ test to get the gun? That is more gun laws.

meatman 11-19-2008 01:17 PM

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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6287379&page=1

listening to this kid is amazing

Twisted Avatar 11-19-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1424307)
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6287379&page=1

listening to this kid is amazing


Those cops are a bunch of @$$holes.......... that is a SHINING EXAMPLE of what happens when you cooperate with cops on ANY LEVEL.

You get hung out to dry.

How was the kid even questioned by himself ?? Where was the mother??? How could she allow her son to be left alone with cops under any circumstances?

This whole event stinks to high heaven And Obama and Biden are thankful for it.


T

meatman 11-19-2008 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1424453)
Those cops are a bunch of @$$holes.......... that is a SHINING EXAMPLE of what happens when you cooperate with cops on ANY LEVEL.

You get hung out to dry.

How was the kid even questioned by himself ?? Where was the mother??? How could she allow her son to be left alone with cops under any circumstances?

This whole event stinks to high heaven And Obama and Biden are thankful for it.


T

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GreenSpirit 11-19-2008 08:50 PM

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Don't you believe that every American adult should be allowed to own firearms without gov't interference?

Isn't that the very definition of Liberty?
Should someone have prevented this guy from possessing a firearm?


...just asking

Caligula 11-19-2008 09:10 PM

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Frickin' lawyers.....

Quote:

She argued that Peters isn't a flight risk, or a danger to himself or the community.
Not a danger to himself or the community??!!
He killed his daughter while drinking Vodka. :thumb.aspx:

GreenSpirit 11-19-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligula (Post 1425364)
Frickin' lawyers.....



Not a danger to himself or the community??!!
He killed his daughter while drinking Vodka. :thumb.aspx:

If he can keep his guns away from his booze he might be an ok guy.

RealJack 11-19-2008 10:15 PM

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If I ever had an accident of that sort, killing my little girl, I'd probably off myself by running face first into a brick wall with a hand full of sharp No.2 pencils stuck in my nostrils.

You think that guy might be reading this thread?


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